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Old 05-17-2008, 09:16 AM
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Cool What a joke!

We will see who has the last laugh!

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Old 05-17-2008, 11:50 AM
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Yes, the company has made mistakes, every company does! I see Russ, has convinced everyone of his distorted views of th company, so I will not post the hundreds of good points that has happenend in the past, and present.

I donot need to post on this board, I really can care less about posting here, this board has turned like all the rest, let the bashers post the garbage and one side of the story and the board goes to hell! You guys are feeding into the hands of the shark, and you don't even know it. I would rather all you puppets sell your shares now, so I can buy at a lower price.

We will see who has the last laugh!
And that is exactly why the stocked has tanked. Because someone "in the know" posts that good things are happening when they aren't. Someone lists progress without costs. And the stock tanks.

My distorted view? Well, I do look at the chart right side up.

I once wrote a long post to you which included "the stock price trumps everything". You didn't understand and I didn't bother to explain. What it means is that, regardless of news, progress, positives, negatives, good or bad, the price movement of the stock (up or down) is the only result that matters.

What it means is that USSE/SSTP could sign a multi-billion dollar contract tomorrow and the stock could tank farther. That kind of "positive" always comes with another side which is the side that determines what the stock will do and how much of it. What if that contract cost three billion in dilution? By pumping just one side and one with very little support, you guarantee the stock will dive and both have done just that. I lay the stock problems at your door at least as much as at the companies'.

However, all the above can make money because it also creates volitility -- my best friend. A billion dollar deal may not save the stock, but it can certainly spike it and that equals profits.

As to loyalty, mine is just to those profits. And good shareholders are those who profit from their shares. I have and I do and I'm ready do do it again here when the horn blows. If you had all the money you have put into USSE/SSTP today, in cash, how many shares could you buy? Wouldn't that make you a stronger, better shareholder?

You proudly announce that you hold the company accountable when the exact opposite is true. The companies are spending millions and conceal the costs, going further than refusing to file, they gagged the TA! They might as well have put out a PR, "This Company Will Not BE Held Accountable!" Just how many shares would you say are out on a fully diluted basis right now? I'll bet you can't guess within two billion. At the same time, just what percentage of the Baytown facility is owned by SSTP or USSE?

I don't expect answers, of course. They aren't there. But, if you can at least ask the questions, you can make money in the stock.

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Old 05-17-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: Perspective

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Yes, the company has made mistakes, every company does! I see Russ, has convinced everyone of his distorted views of the company, so I will not post the hundreds of good points that has happenend in the past, and present.
Geo,

This board isn't anything like the Bull Board, where any and every positive gets jumped on immediately and mugged by 4-6 posters...

It's nothing like the Hub where every positive is held up to ridicule and every other post gets deleted/censored.

It's not even like I-Ville that's one mean insult after another.

Just because Fairway posts the negative aspects, many of which ARE legitimate, doesn't mean this board has gone to bashers. Kaboom SSTP is, to my knowledge, the only positive, consistently optimistic board out there that's capable of looking at both sides of the coin without coming unravelled or descending into the pit.

I point out a bright side to nearly every one of Russ' down sides, and most of the posters here, including yourself, are fairly committed longs.

And in spite of the mistakes, we're still rooting for JR and on his side! You yourself have been frustrated no end at times and in our private correspondence you yourself have been upset at the failure to file (still), the lack of a signed contract and other things as well.

Just because you've acknowledged those things doesn't make you a basher. You're just being honest (and sometimes frustrated).

Welcome to the club. We're just trying to be honest here too (and are sometimes frustrated as well). But in view of ALL of the positives you refer to, most of us here remain positive and supportive. Not to mention that Baytown is alive and well and building out more everyday!

Everyone knows about the new feeding system being installed, which I think is very important, but a much small piece of equipment has also just come in that, while not newsworthy PR-wise, is significant.

The fact that Baytown has it's own blueprint printer now says a LOT of things too! Now what do you suppose that will be needed for?

Don't tell me... let me guess...
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:36 PM
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Smile Facts Speak for Themselves

Thanks to the Admin for letting GeoMoney post again; this board continues to thrive as it continues to be ,well, nice to use and post.
However, being a balanced investor questioning company transparency doesn't make one a "basher".
Facts being what they are, wechoose makes very good points. Even startup companies begin quarterly reporting. It is not that hard to show numbers if they are serious about utilizing generally accepted accounting principles. That tells investors AND the SEC they are legitimate and ethical. As mentioned we can make all the billion dollar investments we want with third world companies but that makes us look like a third world company that bypasses the requirements to function in this country.
Geo provides good info; but he is like a cheerleader for the football team. It is his passion and is laudable. Nevertheless, based on company performance or lack of it, one should take many of his posts like investment advisors, with an eye to caution. Stock floating in the low penny range for this length of time period speaks for itself. This isn't personal, it is simply looking objectively at the data and performance.
Pres. Reagan said it best, "Trust but verify".
Best wishes to all longs!
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:44 PM
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"Just because Fairway posts the negative aspects, many of which ARE legitimate..."

Again, I'd sure appreciate it if, when you say I post illegimate things, you'd point out one or two.

Saying what you say is like saying ParsonMac is often faithful to his wife.

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Old 05-17-2008, 02:40 PM
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Ahhh...

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"Just because Fairway posts the negative aspects, many of which ARE legitimate..."

Again, I'd sure appreciate it if, when you say I post illegimate things, you'd point out one or two.

Saying what you say is like saying ParsonMac is often faithful to his wife.
...but I AM often faithful to my wife! Very often in fact!! Extremely very often if I do say so myself...

...but as big a defender as I've been of yours for a long time, I refuse to say you're infallible.

Just like I refuse to go back over every single post you've made in the last year on all the boards to find the few (I said FEW and I meant FEW) times you've apologized. There have been several.

But why complain about me not saying you're ALWAYS right? You've adequately explained why your posting tends toward the negative and we not only accept it, we understand it.

But I make it a point NEVER, EVER say anything in the "absolute".

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Old 05-17-2008, 05:15 PM
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Maybe it's the present tense that bothers me.
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:37 PM
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Geo,

This board isn't anything like the Bull Board, where any and every positive gets jumped on immediately and mugged by 4-6 posters...

It's nothing like the Hub where every positive is held up to ridicule and every other post gets deleted/censored.

It's not even like I-Ville that's one mean insult after another.

Just because Fairway posts the negative aspects, many of which ARE legitimate, doesn't mean this board has gone to bashers. Kaboom SSTP is, to my knowledge, the only positive, consistently optimistic board out there that's capable of looking at both sides of the coin without coming unravelled or descending into the pit.

I point out a bright side to nearly every one of Russ' down sides, and most of the posters here, including yourself, are fairly committed longs.

And in spite of the mistakes, we're still rooting for JR and on his side! You yourself have been frustrated no end at times and in our private correspondence you yourself have been upset at the failure to file (still), the lack of a signed contract and other things as well.

Just because you've acknowledged those things doesn't make you a basher. You're just being honest (and sometimes frustrated).

Welcome to the club. We're just trying to be honest here too (and are sometimes frustrated as well). But in view of ALL of the positives you refer to, most of us here remain positive and supportive. Not to mention that Baytown is alive and well and building out more everyday!

Everyone knows about the new feeding system being installed, which I think is very important, but a much small piece of equipment has also just come in that, while not newsworthy PR-wise, is significant.

The fact that Baytown has it's own blueprint printer now says a LOT of things too! Now what do you suppose that will be needed for?

Don't tell me... let me guess...
That's why I named him moderator! Again, a man explaining with great compassion and keeping the rule of everyone should have a right to view the opinions without taking out of context! I have lots of respect here!

I think I will keep GeoEntertainment around to show new comers and returning visitors we DON’T allow just anyone to post what they want and how they site fit, no matter how close they are to the company!!! We follow the rules he with NO expception!

It’s unfortunate that I have past him as be able to come back to the site and give him a nice warmly welcome to the site for a second chance.. We all see who was the right person to remove from the board in the past was now!! I don’t know how you could do business this way!

It’s too bad really.

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Old 05-17-2008, 09:49 PM
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So Parson....

Let's see. You were a "Senior Member", now you are a "Moderator". Does that mean you are a "Senior Moderator"....or just "Moderatley Senior"? Just wondering. Whatever the actual title I'm sure you will do just fine.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:49 PM
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Unhappy Kids, we need to grown up!

I think everyone is a little on edge with the economy and the stock only going down and not up!! Ron AKA GeoMoney received another very sincere chance to redeem himself hear on the board but he goes right back to his attacking antics and expect the board to bend the rules once more!

WeeChoose, you really think you’re a big know it all, for what! For your own self center arrogant ego!! You have not shown any trading tactics or how to even use Technical’s, Market Maker indicators or anything it takes to be a true investor so far from what I can see!

The owner of this board is a good friend of mine and he has worked pretty hard putting together a site for all who just want to share their values and investing idea’s to each other to create wealth to all who would like to share! ITS FREE!!! AND THE MOST ADVANCE SITE ON THE NET!

Have you seen some of the stats on the main site! This is all from his hard work doing SEO, Submitting to directories, etc etc!! Not from one thread on this board.

If we spent some time listening and sharing instead of crying like little girls and make some money which he has done (see the % on the main site for some of the stocks that have been right under your noses all along) you might stop the madness and get a grip!

I made some nice money on GETC from a member here. Thank you for the tip! Did any of you make money on this? I’m up over 1,000% since I have been on this board.. I’m a very happy man!!

From what I can see, some of you are not so happy. What does that tell the rest of the board.. Don’t blame the messaging of the board. The board has put rules in place, asked for you to follow them and then you blame him for enforcing them!! You guys need to grow up and accept the fact yourself centered and only care about you own self wealth & ego’s which in turn, you have killed this stock and your own money.

You only have yourself to blame, not the owner of this board.

Go somewhere else and I’m sure you would get the same results. I will continue to listen to all investors for the next KaBooming Hot Stocks and keep making money..

PennyPlayer..

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