[MoLong]

Originally Posted by 2guard

The SEC is not God and, being human, they err. I think they made a huge mistake this time. I have read all 16 pages of the complaint. They say a lot, but don't prove anything. JR can bring top notch fuel specialists, like Amspec, to prove that his process works, and, once you do that, it's obvious that it is worth billions. In this country, we are supposed to believe that a man is innocent until proven guilty. Well, the only thing that JR is obviously guilty of is trying to build an incredible company that will change the world.
Hmmm, maybe big oil is behind this complaint?

I agree somewhat with what you are saying but as Wechoose instructed me
check out complaints 31-34 I believe. It basically states JR instructed Alice to dump as he pumped, not good, not good at all. Remember though these are accusations only, they have not been proven as fact.

[uzzo2]

Originally Posted by 2guard

What makes you think that big oil would not be involved? They have everything to lose by JR's process taking over.

Originally Posted by uzzo2

i don't care what they say, i'm still going to buy cause i still believe. it's funny, i was just telling a friend the other day that i would be real surprised if the US govt. ever let usse/sstp see the light of day.

i was being sarcastic, see above post.

[gloworm]

JR has some great friends and supporters I'm proud of the guy he has pushed the process so far,and still going he ain't going to stop fighting, I am rooting for you JR.


What Vee-Go thinks? We are very much in. Why?

1.I saw the soy to oil process, the resulting fuel, and I know it works. I tested the ash and confirmed and/or discovered its amazing properties. I know John and he isn't folding.

2.The SEC has had John under a microscope for well over a year. Why did it take them so long to act? It could be that despite their harassment of him in Natchez, John successfully continued on to Baytown and found support outside of the US before they could stop him in the US. Now he has very serious international partners who couldn't give a damn about the SEC, doomed Fossil Barons, Federal Reserve, and other potential big losers. Maybe they are getting nervous and decided to act.

3.If John succeeds, the value of fossil fuel will tumble and the resulting impact on the oil/dollar connection will have dire consequences for the 1% of our population who own half of all the private property and liquid investible capital in the USA. These people may not feel threatened by biodiesel, ethanol, or scam biofuels that could be destined for failure, but John's Vertroleum could really turn the tide.

4.The fact that Alice sold $721,000 of stock is not necessarily relevant. The issue will be the timing and what she did with the money. They have to live and the only thing they have is stock until this thing goes to the heights it could achieve.

5. Under the law, if you write a check that bounces, it can either be considered a crime of uttering or be nothing of consequence at all. The difference between the two is whether you "had reason to believe" the money would be in the bank before the check got there. John has every reason to believe a number of the things he said as outlined in the docket. Granted, some may have been due to his great passion and optimism, but were they intentionally false in order to profit illegally - I don't think so.

6. Regardless of what happens to John, he isn't going to hold back on the secret nanobac formula. It's market success is the best way for him to deal a serious blow to those who might try to prevent his personal success. The horse is already out of the gate. There will be plants in Central America, Norway, Spain, Europe, etc. Those partners who are very prominent on the world stage also saw the process and have no intention of allowing their countries to be held down any longer by those outsiders who benefit from the status quo in their countries. This fuel may be the future of Central America where the political scene is definitely not in the mode of kissing US ass. When Vertroleum has its first production success, a ripple will be created that will benefit other believers.

7. By the time this suit sees a courtroom, John could be very rich, angry, and in full rhino gallop. Good luck to any SOB who stands in his way.

Michael Garjian, CEO
Vee-Go Energy

Investors Hub - U. S. Sustainable Energy Corp (USSE) Message Board - Post #61085

[Oil Can]

Is John the new Preston Tucker? I don't know, but I have questions last night about this investigation. Lawyers are not infallible nor is the government. I also think of Border Agents Ramos and Compean.

Preston Tucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[gloworm]

Molong great post re French, DeGaulle laid down the pattern of behaviour in France amongst the politic
as regards to Britain and USA and a few other countries he was a very difficult man during and after the war. I am glad to hear someone putting the facts forward. I visit France a lot only because the part that I visit the country side is how I remember good old England 60 odd years ago.Have met some great people and a few how shall I put it a little bit confusing in their attitude towards channel jumpers.
I have a Dutch pal who lives in France he said that when the russian nuclear power station blew the official government news stated that the pollution stopped at the border and never entered France.How real is that.

[thecrystalball23]

Mr. Rivera is currently posting on the IV board.

Rhino

This is a post from a God fearing American individual exercising his First Amendment Right of Freedom of Speech
This is the Rhino

For those of you who don't know me by that name, let me introduce myself: I am John Rivera, the inventor and owner of the Rivera Process!

I am driven by a greater force: God, Country, Family, Friends, and the deliverance of green energy independence for mankind. I have suffered a heart attack and two strokes in my quest. I have been harassed, threatened, defamed, ridiculed, slandered, belittled and my honor impugned, and I have not mentioned or done a pr or web update for USSEC since I walked out of the SEC office the last time in Atlanta because one of the attorneys there has no command of the English language and asks the same question 10 to .................times every time I put out a pr on USSE and has cost you, the stockholders, irreparable harm on his witch hunt against me, which I can and will prove!!!! THE LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED WHEN HE BROUGHT A TEAR IN THE EYE OF SOMEONE I LOVE. He has made the biggest mistake of his life. We, the American People and the citizens in the countries who have embraced my answer to energy independence, HAVE WON!!! (not will). Sooner than expected we will say goodbye and good riddance to $4.00 plus gas prices. And I as a American and as a champion for humanity will exercise my God- given and American rights to slay the witch hunter through the American Justice System and Public Opinion.

To all USSEC stockholders, I will be walking tall and you should be proud of your major role in our success.

I humbly ask my USSEC stockholders to forgive me for my silence. It was the only way I could have the time to cross the finish line!!

To the people shorting our stock, all I have to say to you is "THE GREATEST REVENGE IN THE WORLD IS SUCESS", it's time to pay up cover and go away!!!

To the paid bashers, I hope you have unemployment insurance.

Fairway--well, Fairway will always be Fairway. P.S., if you look back far enough you will find I got fined in 1975 because my grass was too long in my exclusive gated community.

To My Faithful Longs and Supporters, I thank you for your support. I would greatly appreciate hearing from you all at support@sstp.us, support@ussec.us, or support@jhrivera.com.


U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. - Rhino - USSE.PK - InvestorVillage

[MoLong]

Glowy, You and the Parson seem to be pretty tight so do you know why he is not posting? I hope he is not letting things upset him too much. Hopefully he is just out of town enjoying life. Thanks.

[ParsonMac]

Sorry to fall down on the job last day and a half... especially during "the great meltdown of '08".

But aside from catching Fairway's initial post and posting a quickie question, I've been busy at work with guests from out of town, busy with visiting family vacationing with us at home, and helping some friends move today...

I've scanned the boards briefly, BTW... SOME GREAT POSTS BY EVERYONE HERE! THANKS FER PICKIN' UP MY SLACK.

And my son's popped out briefly at the Bull just a coupla' times to put a lowlife in his place, you can read the "chip off the old block" right here!

Raging Bull: US Sustainable Energy Corp Message Board

That's my boy! More character and honor in his little finger than many of the posters have in their entire body!

Have to run and fetch some more furniture now! Will sit down "by the fire" tonight and toss in my two cents worth about all this (though I think pretty much everything's been said that can or should be said.

Obviously, many things have been said that didn't need to be said and/or complete with petty, hateful, and vindinctive hearts, but that's par for the course seems like...

JR's been knocked to the canvas, but he's been there before and there's lots of rounds left in this fight.

Have a great day all and remember...

"If we refine it, they will come." !!!

[ParsonMac]

If you don't mind, would you be so good as to post a copy of my post I just posted over at the Village... just to let folks know I'm not suicidal!

Thanks lad!

[ParsonMac]

I'm not even depressed !!!